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Reply #15 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 6:47pm
 
My wife carries a Raven in her purse , and I told her IF at any time she has to use it , press it tight against the perps mid section and empty the mag. with all 7 rounds then run like h*ll.
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Reply #16 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 8:19pm
 
The only thing I might add would be that she should have him/her open his/her jacket and shirt and expose a bare midsection before she presses the 25 to it and starts firing (LOL). Grin
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Reply #17 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 9:02pm
 
25 Cal. = Punch In The Nose..........
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Re: 25 auto...your thoughts please
Reply #18 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 5:10pm
 
Please remember that any semi auto at contact distance risks jamming from fluid blowback into the action or a similar issue with the pressure rising due to not enough distance between muzzle and target. Repeat follow up shots, more especially with such a marginal caliber are incredibly important.
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Reply #19 - Jan 2nd, 2010 at 6:42pm
 
I would sell the Raven as quickly as possible and purchase a weapon with which you would practice. Above commentators have covered a wide range of basic problems with the 25 and small calibers in General but a important point is this; a .22 pistol would cast you nearly nothing to shoot and give you better power. The Centerfire .25 combines the expense of a Centerfire case with the disadvantage of a bullet that has been known to stop in a heavy leather jacket.

Handgun Defense is a Martial Art. To become good at this Art, you must practice to the point that you know your weapon well and trust it to work when you need it to go bang. The Pot Metal Raven would never hold up to the number of rounds necessary for you to do that (~1000 rounds a year).



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Reply #20 - Jan 6th, 2010 at 2:33am
 
newgunner09 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2009 at 11:48am:
I'm new to gun ownership.  I took a basic pistol class two months ago, then my father-in-law gave me a Raven Arms .25 semi auto.  I understand this caliber is far less than ideal for a defensive gun.   The way I see it, it's better than nothing...right?   How many rounds should I expect to need in order to "stop" a bad guy with this gun?

It's not the caliber, although .25 ACP is anything but a fight stopper, but rather the Raven Arms pistol. It has a reputation for being very unreliable. Lots of stoppages, I believe.
That's as unacceptable in a defensive handgun as is its all-too-low-power cartridge. Your pistol has to fire every time you want it to, without fail.
Further, tiny pistols are very difficult to shoot well, no matter the caliber. Inexperienced hands will find that they are hard to control.
It's easier than you think, to conceal a much larger handgun. Doing so may require, er, sartorial adjustments (like larger-size pants), but it can be done, and comfortably too.
If you can afford it, or are willing to save-up for it, I strongly suggest a closer-to-full-size gun in a more powerful caliber. Then, I also suggest that you do lots and lots of slow, smooth practice with it.
(My wife, Jean, weighs 100 pounds, fully dressed and soaking wet. She learned to shoot with a full-size .45 ACP semi-auto, and found it easy to do. It's all in the technique. Of course, she's too small to be able to conceal a full-size 1911—I'm just illustrating that learning to shoot a more effective caliber isn't all that difficult.)
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Reply #21 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 10:53pm
 
Per Longtooth:  "The .25 is what I call an EENT gun.  Eye, Ear, Nose & Throat."

That's good stuff!   Grin
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